The Doctor's Daughter reactions... I guess.
Sunday, May 11th, 2008 04:30 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I am incapable of thinking normally at this point: every sentence I frame becomes a macro.
SPOILERS FOR 4x06: The Doctor's Daughter.
WHY GOD WHY




Too soon ?
I will say that I did enjoy the episode- the Doctor remembering his own children, and bonding with Jenny, was really gorgeously done on Tennant's part. His face, people- his face. God, for a minute, it was like you could see him imagining her birthday parties and scaring off her first boyfriend. And then, like it does, it all comes crashing down.
Jenny- or Genny, correct me if I'm wrong- was actually very adorable and I liked her after the initial setup; her innocence and freshness played well off of an extremely world-weary Ten. And I am thrilled at the idea of seeing her again- honestly, very thrilled. That's she out there and he's out there, and someday they'll have an incredible reunion. It gives me plotty fic ideas which may or may not pan out.
But still... the parallels with the Master's death, dredging up the Gallifrey angst just to add more Gallifrey angst. And so on. I liked the story, I liked the episode, I liked the reveal of the "generations" fighting the war, I liked that Donna got some lines of win; but it left me feeling very- tired. So tired. Exhausted, and not a little sad.
I feel like the Doctor must: how many more will die ? How much more can be lost ?
Please, RTD, give us hope by the end- have some light at the end of the tunnel. And not a cheap candle, either; I expect either bright-ass fucking daylight or those superhot weed-growing lamps at the very least.
I expect to need sunglasses.
You hear me, RTD ?
SPOILERS FOR 4x06: The Doctor's Daughter.
WHY GOD WHY




Too soon ?
I will say that I did enjoy the episode- the Doctor remembering his own children, and bonding with Jenny, was really gorgeously done on Tennant's part. His face, people- his face. God, for a minute, it was like you could see him imagining her birthday parties and scaring off her first boyfriend. And then, like it does, it all comes crashing down.
Jenny- or Genny, correct me if I'm wrong- was actually very adorable and I liked her after the initial setup; her innocence and freshness played well off of an extremely world-weary Ten. And I am thrilled at the idea of seeing her again- honestly, very thrilled. That's she out there and he's out there, and someday they'll have an incredible reunion. It gives me plotty fic ideas which may or may not pan out.
But still... the parallels with the Master's death, dredging up the Gallifrey angst just to add more Gallifrey angst. And so on. I liked the story, I liked the episode, I liked the reveal of the "generations" fighting the war, I liked that Donna got some lines of win; but it left me feeling very- tired. So tired. Exhausted, and not a little sad.
I feel like the Doctor must: how many more will die ? How much more can be lost ?
Please, RTD, give us hope by the end- have some light at the end of the tunnel. And not a cheap candle, either; I expect either bright-ass fucking daylight or those superhot weed-growing lamps at the very least.
I expect to need sunglasses.
You hear me, RTD ?
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Date: Sunday, May 11th, 2008 09:15 pm (UTC)I liked the macro, and this episode. Although the "it's just a bullet--regenerate!" was too much LOTL too soon for me.
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Date: Sunday, May 11th, 2008 10:41 pm (UTC)As you can tell.
But yeah, a little too much LotTL, too soon. Apparently time lords die by gunshot more often than any other species.
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Date: Sunday, May 11th, 2008 09:18 pm (UTC)RTDlife.no subject
Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 01:06 am (UTC)OH GOD I didn't even think of that. Yeah, it's a lantern attached to a bomb, or a shaky flashlight held by a moleman, or a lightning storm. Seriously, can somebody get the Doctor a glass of iced tea and a cupcake, STAT ? Maybe a nice seaweed wrap and some deep tissue massage.
And therapy ?
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Date: Sunday, May 11th, 2008 09:28 pm (UTC)I really hope so, anyway. That's the only way I might be able to deal with the angst!
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Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 01:04 am (UTC)....YYYYYYYYYYYY !
I'm going to need a lot of tissues, I think, before this season ends. But c'est la vie. Like you said, I can deal with it if it's all going somewhere good.
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Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 08:33 am (UTC)*agrees*
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Date: Sunday, May 11th, 2008 09:31 pm (UTC)HEE :D So say we all!!
I was thinking about the Master-Jenny parallels and I have a theory that this is a part of the healing/return to healthiness theme for this season: that thanks to the TARDIS's cosmic joke of angst and doom, the last Gallifreyan he mourns isn't the supremely f*cked up genocidal megalomaniac he's willing to forgive if it gives him company, but a 'cookie' ;) of Kind of Awesome that he'd never have to.
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Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 01:03 am (UTC)I so want you to be right ! I mean, at least we as an audience got to see that Jenny's still out there, and that potential is out there for them to team up and have some kind of family experience. That'd be sweet.
And yeah, the other last Gallifreyan can actually be a nice person instead of a homicidal maniac. Ha ! As much as I love the Master, I wouldn't invite him to a block party or anything. If I were the Doctor, I'd prefer the hope of Jenny to the tragedy of the Master. :)
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Date: Sunday, May 11th, 2008 09:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 01:00 am (UTC)I think it's probably intentional, at least for this ep, that he looks tired (literally) of all the fighting. I hope it is, anyway. He's getting older (and more... delightful... all the time, I'd happily reassure him) but I just don't like the idea of him actually being run down. That's too sad. :(
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Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 12:28 am (UTC)I feel like the Doctor must: how many more will die ? How much more can be lost ?
I'm fully expecting the Doctor to rescue a puppy from a fire in an upcoming episode, ONLY TO WATCH IT GET RUN OVER BY A TRUCK.
Please, RTD, give us hope by the end- have some light at the end of the tunnel. And not a cheap candle, either; I expect either bright-ass fucking daylight or those superhot weed-growing lamps at the very least.
YES! YES, PLEASE!
Do you think it would help if we sent him artwork? I could draw a representation of my tears in MS Paint.
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Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 12:57 am (UTC)My contribution:
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Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 01:09 am (UTC)This might be somewhat of a work in progress:
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Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 01:15 am (UTC)There's an advantage to all of this, you know: if we cry enough, we can go boating.
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Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 01:26 am (UTC)And, YES! That is where this season is headed.
I would also like to point out that the raft does not look very sturdy. And I might be crying too hard to notice if you fell off it.
Unstable raft is unstable.
Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 02:43 am (UTC):D
um. are macros contagious?
Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 01:30 am (UTC)Re: um. are macros contagious?
Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 02:42 am (UTC)Awesome. Win. I love this; RTD, are you paying attention ? Light ! Tunnel ! Look into it !
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Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 07:54 am (UTC)NOW!
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Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 03:01 pm (UTC)Just... a nice big space of happiness, somewhere. Some rest, some peace. Some satisfaction, some connection to another person who cares about him and isn't going to leave him/be horribly killed.
ROSE WOULD BE GOOD.
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Date: Monday, May 12th, 2008 07:22 pm (UTC)I loved this episode -- and I adore sweet, fun-loving Jenny with her infectious smile! -- but all this gratuitous Doctor angst is getting ridiculous. OK, he's the last of his kind ... yes, he has gobs of emotional baggage ... We get it already!
Unless, like you say, there is a big payoff at the end. Then I will be able to look back at these episodes and pet him and say, "Don't cry, emo!Doctor, it will all get better soon."
(And I mean, really, from a writer's standpoint, doesn't there have to be a big payoff? Why set up this four season long story line, only to have things end up exactly where they started, with an emotionally damaged Doctor who has lost everyone and everything he loved, with no hope for the future? What kind of story-teller does that??
And the answer better not be RTD.)no subject
Date: Thursday, May 15th, 2008 01:04 am (UTC)And I think you're perfectly correct when you ask the question "doesn't there have to be a big payoff ?" From a storytelling standpoint, yeah, if you're telling the kind of story they claim to be telling. If you're telling a story about connection and love and courage then there ought to be a payoff. We're supposed to love the Doctor because he stands up for what's right and good; so if he gets nothing but shit for it in return that's... kind of a sad lesson.
I say more hugs. MOAR HUGS NAO. And less killing and weeping. Hugs and kittens and ice-cream and handholding.
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Date: Monday, May 19th, 2008 05:41 am (UTC)ON.
DED. TOTALLY WITH YOU ON THIS ALL THE WAY GIRL. WHEN WILL RTD BE KILLED BY MOB OF ANGRY FANGIRLS? WE'LL NEVER KNOW, BUT
I HOPEIT MAY BE SOON. VERY SOON. *cough cough*no subject
Date: Tuesday, June 17th, 2008 07:28 am (UTC)Cause that would explain why Jenny looks to be a Docotr/Rose love child.